Open Hearts, Hidden Truths
Open Hearts, Hidden Truths is a new podcast where the raw meets the revelatory – secrets, realizations, and turning points that reshape who we become.
First-time and never-again experiences, in particular, compel us to evolve.
Through personal confessions and guest stories, we explore transformative shifts and uncover the hidden truths that connect us all.
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Open Hearts, Hidden Truths
What If Losing Everything Revealed Your True Path?
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Kristine Genovese unveils how a traumatic childhood led her to being a corporate overachiever – before losing it all. That rock-bottom turning point led her to create the Soul Intelligence Method.
Have you experienced an event that rocked you to your core, only to discover it was a blessing in disguise?
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Intro
Speaker 1This is Shamron, and you're listening to Open Hearts, Hidden Truths. Kristine Genovese went from a corporate career woman to a spiritual gangster. In her book, Healing Through Soul Intelligence, she details her bioenergetic healing method that guides us past pain towards wholeness. Mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually. She writes beneath the surface of my corporate success, there was a growing sense of discontent. Despite the agony, promotion, and financial reward, I couldn't shake the feeling that something was missing. I was fulfilling my professional obligations, but my soul was starved for deeper meaning. The very skills that had made me successful in the corporate world were beginning to feel like a cage, trapping me in a life that was out of alignment with my true self.
A Young Girl in Queens
Speaker 1So I'm excited to dive into your Soul Intelligence Method. There's a lot to unpack with that and how one applies that and how one practices that. But first I want to go back to the very beginning. Let's go back to Queens. What was your home life like?
Speaker 2Well, you know, I'm fortunate that I have a very, very loving mom. Um, but um I had a very difficult childhood uh in terms of the relationship with my father, you know, when I was very young, um, you know, was still, I think, under control of an addiction. Um, but as I started to um, you know, get into, you know, my my eight, eight, nine, ten, you know, earlier years, um, he started to really lose a grip on his ability to um manage alcohol um and using that uh to try and help with the stress of, you know, the job that he was doing. And um back in those days, you know, um they didn't send people to rehab, they just moved the problem around. So um we wound up moving from New York to Connecticut, um, and then from Connecticut to the Pogan Mountains of Pennsylvania, and we kept getting further and further away um from the corporate office. And I didn't realize, you know, growing up at the time that that's what was happening. Um, I just thought, oh, Dad got promoted and we're moving, you know. But um what was really going on behind the scenes was um he uh, you know, was using alcohol to medicate and um couldn't couldn't manage it.
Speaker 1So he burned a lot of bridges, it sounds like and it that bounced you around, that uprooted your your life.
Speaker 2Yeah, and my mom had to work two jobs really to keep us afloat because you know the the addiction became stronger. Um there was a lot of abuse, um, mental, emotional, physical. Um my you know, my mom wasn't there, so it was myself and my brother, and I had to kind of, you know, watch over him. Um oftentimes we would have to leave the house in the afternoon after getting home from school and run to a neighbor's um because my dad was out of control.
Speaker 1That must have been a lot to deal with growing up as a young girl, navigating so many things growing up as a teenager. How did that shape your drive?
Speaker 2Um, you know, a lot of like without going into sort of the extent of um of the abuse, there was a lot, um, a lot of trauma. Um I actually my dad wound up getting two drunk driving offenses within ten days of each other when I was in high school. And uh he had, you know, kind of started a sign painting business and um insisted to the judge that um he had to, you know, be able to work in order to provide for the family, which was, you know, a farce. It was just so that he could be back at the house. And so every morning I would have to drive to the county jail, pick my dad up, bring him to the house, go to school, come back home, pick him up, and take him back to jail. Um, and I had to do that for 30 days. Now, today he would have been in jail a lot longer, but back then, you know, um it wasn't seen the same way. So um it was a lot, right? Um, in terms of like how did it shape my drive? Um honestly, in order to get any kind of positive attention, positive reinforcement, I always felt like I needed to, you know, not just meet expectations, but exceed expectations, right? I had to be the best at whatever I could do, because if I wasn't, then, you know, I was going to hear about it and and, you know, deal with the wrath and the abuse. So um, you know, there were some dark periods where I dealt with the wrath and the abuse. So what I wound up doing was excelling in sports, um, doing my best to get into a good school and get the heck out of that house as quick as I could.
Finding Corporate Success
Speaker 1And then walk me through sort of the path that led you to being a badass corporate boss.
Speaker 2Well, um, it's kind of an interesting one. Um, I, you know, I graduated um and worked for um a number of companies, but where I really found my calling, I think, um, or what led me to moving into the corporate turnaround specialist was working in the field of higher education. So, you know, I loved the promise of higher education, you know, helping people, you know, find, you know, what they really wanted to pursue in life and to help them fulfill their dreams and goals. And um, that was really rewarding to me. Um, so being able to sell something I believed in really made sense to me. Um, how I, you know, I really just progressed in that field because I think I really loved the mission. And um, you know, I got to work not only for colleges and universities, but I also got to work for companies that services service colleges and universities. And I continued to move up and excel and exceed expectations and always got rewarded for it because it just came naturally to me. And I think, you know, during those years, I wound up looking at um, you know, how how what are sort of like the underlying um reasons for the company not succeeding? You know, like um, you know, as a corporate turnaround specialist, it's always like what people, process, you know, technology needs to shift or change in order to support the business objective, whether that was to grow from a revenue perspective, or whether that was to improve operations, or whether that was to get the company ready for sale, whatever the goal was. And so I think I was always looking for what's that underlying root cause, what's that commonality, what's what's the energy or the reason why this company isn't succeeding, or what's going wrong in this division and what needed to shift. And so I think that was sort of the early underpinnings of me getting in touch with my Soul Intelligence and you know listening, you know, looking for the underlying patterns, the emotional root cause as to why the business wasn't succeeding.
Speaker 1So it sounds like you you were always curious and you like to peel back that onion and discover, okay, why are why are things the way they are? How can I make them better?
Speaker 2Absolutely, right? Um I think we all all try and do that to some degree. And, you know, um, growing up with the alcoholic parent, I always had this feeling like, you know, I wasn't good enough. Um and so what I would do is always try and meet or exceed my boss's expectations. So that served me extremely well in corporate America. Um and I, you know, I got rewarded for it and bonused and you know, was able to move up the corporate ladder. Um I won't say I did it seamlessly because, you know, at the time that I did that, you know, the the glass ceiling was a real thing. Um it I probably still have scars from bumping my head on that glass ceiling so many times. Um, you know, meaning you had to work twice as hard as a woman, you know, to um make the same amount of money as a man.
Suppressing Femininity
Speaker 2And I also, you know, wound up really suppressing my femininity because I felt like what was rewarded is, you know, being more masculine. So, you know, I'd be crass, use cla crass language. I would, you know, make fun of anybody who got emotional at work. I, you know, would be up on sports statistics so I could, you know, be be one of the guys. And that kind of came um, well, it did come as something that wound up, you know, producing self-injury to me. Um and what I wound up doing was um having a cervical cancer scare. Uh after years and years of devaluing myself as a woman, you know, I just kept pushing it down, stuffing it down. It had to go somewhere. So all of that energy in my body literally went to my uterus. Um and I went in for a normal OBGYN checkup. Um, and the doctor said to me, Hey, you've had an abnormal papsmere. We need you to come back in, and we're gonna do an in-office procedure, which they call a copal, which I went back in and did that. And then after the copal, they called me and said, Hey, um, too many of these cells are cancer, so we need to do a conical biopsy in the hospital. And I was like, What? You know, cancer. Geez. Um, that can't be right. That can't be me. You know, kind of go through that denial. And then I was like, oh, well, you know, I'm done having kids. Why don't you just take out my parts? You know, who cares? I'll just get a hysterectomy. Um, that was how disconnected from my body and being a woman I was at the time. I remember, you know, even going all the way back to college, carrying like two cases of beer up three flights of stairs just to prove to the guys I could do it, you know. Um, and here I am, you know, in the just middle of my, you know, corporate career. And I realized, wow, something's really wrong. And I didn't know it was me stuffing my femininity at the time. I actually, when, you know, after I kind of got that initial shock, I remember, you know, calling my doctor, calling um my um, you know, other healers, psychics, um, energetic practitioners of every different kind, and seeking out advice, like what's going on? And I remember the first woman said to me, Well, you're not in touch with your divine feminine. And I was like, Well, what the heck does that mean at the time, right? Nobody was talking about divine masculine or feminine. You know, I'm like, Well, do I have to grow my hair long? Do I need to wear flowy dresses, dance? What does that mean? You know? Um, and so uh what I realized was I had really devalued myself as a woman. And I saw women as weak, right? Crying as weak. There's no crying in baseball, like Tom Hanks said in a league of their own. Um, and that was the culture I grew up in, you know. My dad made me feel devalued as a woman, you know, that we were weaker. I always had to try harder. He used to call my brother Sue just to, you know, nag him, you know, even just kind of attacking, you know, social roles. And so I realized, wow, um, how disconnected I really was. And so I started to research um, you know, goddesses and like Sekhmet in Egypt with the crazy lioness hair, probably because of my crazy hair. Um, but you know, like um looking at, you know, strong women leaders like Joan of Arc or like Margaret Thatcher, like these women that had such impact, you know, and realized, you know, we were a matriarchical society at one time. Um and um I started to understand what I had been doing. And then I talked to, you know, another um, I did an energy like an energetic acupuncture session with someone and also moved a lot of that stuck energy out. And I started to do a lot of prayer and a lot of meditation, and I started talking to my cells and my body, like, you know, we're vibrating healthy. There is no, this is gone. This doesn't exist. And I had one energy worker who's also a massage therapist say to me, she said, you know, by the time you go in for that conical biopsy, it's gonna be gone. I go, you know what? You're right, it is gonna be gone. And so I continued my practice until I went in for the conical biopsy.
Healing News
Speaker 2And I'll never forget the look on my OBGYN's face when she told me that we must have cut it all out because it's gone. I'm like, yeah, we must have. So did it all get cut out? Was it the energetic work? Was it the prayer? Was it the meditation? Was it all the other healing and recognition and acknowledgement? My answer is yes, it's all of it. And that's really what I talk about when I talk about Soul Intelligence and holistic healing. It's physical, it's mental, it's emotional, it's energetic, it's always to heal somebody wholly and completely. And I'm very grateful to say that um it's not recurred and it's been quite some time.
Speaker 1So it sounds like the Soul Intelligence Method actually started way back when. During your cancer scare.
Speaker 2Yes, it did. Mm-hmm. It sure did. Yeah, it's really listening to your inner knowing, right? We talk about IQ. We all understand what that is, and the importance of intellect, and that's the, you know, the idea, the electric of the electric spark and the electromagnetic field, right? The masculine spark. But what magnetizes things to you, what brings things into you, is the feminine, which is the um the magnetic part, which is emotion. And emotion is energy in motion. When energy is no longer in motion, that's when it pools in the body and it starts to cause dis-ease or dysfunction or a dissonance in your frequency, and you need to go see a doctor because something's been in there a long time. And so what I realized, you know, going through my own um, you know, health scare was wow, there's way more here. You know, when I got to the underlying energetic root cause, I was able to help myself on a different level. And my body was trying to tell me, Kristine, you know, you can't continue to um suppress half of yourself, right? Because we all have divine masculine and feminine energy within us. Um, but it's a matter of having that balance within yourself in order to bring out both parts, right? Because the masculine typically is the container that holds the divine feminine's creativity. So you have to have both parts, you know, just like you have to have the initial idea or spark before you can generate those emotions around it to bring in what you want to manifest from the field, right? It's the particle and the wave collapsing. They both parts have to happen in order for something to come forth in the physical. So I know I'm going a little quantum, but um that's that's really how all this works.
Speaker 1So you're you're still in the corporate world at this point. Okay now, there was a a pretty significant moment. I believe it was March of 2020.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm. March 12th of 2020.
Speaker 1Oh, she's got the exact date.
Speaker 2Burned in my memory. Yes.
Speaker 1We're in the middle of COVID.
Disasters Strike
Speaker 1COVID had just wreaked, started wreaking havoc on the world. You're sitting in an oncologist's office. Take me through that.
Speaker 2Well, um, fortunately for me, it was not my oncologist visit this time. It was my now was-band's oncologist visit. Um, we were there because he was getting a biopsy on his prostate at the time. And I got a call from the head of HR letting me know uh my services were no longer needed. And I was like, what? What are you talking about? I just got a performance bonus. And he said, Well, the CEO's decided he wants to go in a different direction. And I'm like, what? Backwards? What direction does he want to go in? We just made the turn. We're in year one of a planned three-year turnaround. Um, so things are going the way they're expected to go. What I don't get it. And he just said, you know, I'm I'm sorry, and we'll work on an exit package. So I'm in shock because I'm the breadwinner. I'm the one that holds the benefits. I'm freaking out. Um, and uh I texted my boss, who was the COO, and I said, I just got fired. And he goes, Me too. I'm like, what? So essentially what happened, we had prepared a board deck, and um I had been, you know, asking for more employees uh in order to be able to convert the marketing dollars, the number of leads that were coming and expected and planned for in the first quarter. And I had wanted to hire more people in the fourth quarter so we could train them and they would be able to convert the leads. And I kept getting told no, I'm not allowed to hire anybody else, that the CEO wanted to hold the line on expenses. So essentially what he did is he fired me, he hired, fired my boss. He walked into the boardroom on Monday morning with our board deck and said, we didn't hire enough people. Because our board deck had shown had we been allowed to hire enough people, not only would we have met the Q1 of expectation, we would have exceeded it. So um what he did was use it an opportunity to get rid of us and save himself. And um he went on a hiring spree. Now, the divine always has a way of making things work out. I like to call it karma. Um, what you give out usually comes back to you. And um, he was investigated by the board, he was removed from office, then he put a crony in to take his place, and the two of them summarily ran the company into the ground, and unfortunately it no longer exists today, which is a shame because it was doing uh good work. Um but that kind of left things with Kristine. Um, what do I do now? It's the height of COVID. Um, everybody's trying to figure out this work from home thing, no one's hiring. Uh uh, I was given basically a nine-month runway to birth something new, which I find, you know, prophetic in and of itself. And um I I did a lot of prayer and meditation, and I just remember I had this one meditation where I had tears streaming down my face, and I just knew I couldn't go back into corporate America, that it would just literally crush my soul. And I know that to be my Soul Intelligence screaming at me today. But um essentially what I wound up doing was taking some really good advice from a friend who had said, you know, rather than going back into doing something you've always done, why don't you do something that you're really passionate about, something you really want to do? And I think um, you know, Brandon Bruchard kind of characterized this um in the best way possible. He said, you know, most of our life we spend in our zone of excellence, right? We do a job, people see us in that role, we identify with that role, um, we're paid really well for it. And it's really tough to leave that, right? People think that's what you should be doing. You know, I was this, you know, crazy, plane hopping, adrenal, junkie, corporate, turnaround specialist, badass, right? And so I identified with that. That felt really good. Um, and then to have that taken away, and then to sit with the now what. And um he talked about that you get to a point where, you know, in spite of being at that zone of excellence, you feel that call for something greater. And he said, that's when you're expected to step into your zone of genius. And um, so I believe that's really why um, you know, when I allowed myself to open up and to give myself time to think, to get quiet enough to hear my Soul Intelligence, that the method literally came through me. Um, I believe it was literally a gift from the divine to help others heal.
Speaker 1So your whole identity up until the the moment in the oncologist was it sounds like it was your career. It was. Totally. Who was Kristine without that career? I guess you were about to find out.
Speaker 2Yeah, that was it. That was truly it, you know, and then what do you do with yourself? Um, everybody had a lot of time on their hands, and there was a lot of alone time, there was a lot of think time, there was a lot of journaling. Um, and it was just really about exploring who am I, who am I really, and what am I really here to do? You know, and so um most of my career it was fixing organizations and companies. And today it's really about helping um others heal. I can't really fix anyone, but I can certainly help them on their healing journey to release things that are no longer serving them.
Personal Chaos
Speaker 1Now, what's your personal life like at this point with your partner?
Speaker 2Uh going back to the corporate time when this all happened? Well, I said it's my now was-band. Um, our relationship did not survive COVID. Um, essentially. You know, that self-lumining belief I talked to you about that I formed very early on as a kid that I, you know, I wasn't good enough. Um, you know, I tried to stay invisible so I wouldn't get abused. Um, it's, you know, just the overachiever always trying to meet or exceed expectations. While that supported me in business, it really didn't support me in my personal life. Um, and what that did was cause me to choose partners who underdid and allowed me to overdo. And unfortunately, um when I had this pivot, I realized I can't keep doing what I've been doing. And accepting that not only I'm am I not at the top of the to-do list, I didn't even make the to-do list, you know. Um, and I just realized what I had been doing. And so I think that theme of self-abandonment is really the hardest, or was for me at least the hardest thing to move through in my life. Because growing up with an alcoholic parent, uh, I learned that if he, if, you know, he was okay, then I was okay. If he wasn't okay, I wasn't okay, and he really wasn't okay most of the time. And that's essentially the same relationship I had with my partner. He was very unhappy, he was always depressed, um, he didn't really enjoy work, he didn't feel vital in his work, which, you know, for a man, um, the seed of manhood is the prostate. And so going out and providing and having a career, an identity in the career, um, typically the reason why so many retired men get prostate cancer is because they've lost their sense of purpose. Um, and the man that I was with didn't want to heal, didn't want to grow, didn't want to change, didn't w find um work stimulating. Um, and so he continued to kind of spiral downward, and the dissonance in our frequencies became so great that I couldn't I couldn't stay in that relationship anymore.
Speaker 1So you you had this rebirth in all components, it sounds like all areas of your life.
Speaker 2I did. The divine went, oh, you're done. It's time to do it's time to step into this new life. Yeah, truly. That's what happened.
Speaker 1You had this realization, thing things weren't feeling good. They weren't, you weren't aligned, I think, basically, with your true self. What happened next?
Beginnings of the Method
Speaker 2After kind of doing all the prayer and meditation, realizing I needed to do something different, the method came through me. And so I designed a book of charts. Um, I had learned a method a long time ago on how to use a book of charts and a pendulum, but it always felt very um stiff, it felt um too structured, it was very religious oriented and not what my what Soul Intelligence method is today. But it gave me the concept of how to put something together. And so um I worked on putting the method together. And then I'm like, huh, how am I gonna introduce this to people? And so what I did is I started um my own coaching and consulting practice. I had earned a coaching credential a number of years prior, um, and I just used it, you know, as part of the way I would coach and mentor people within companies. So I thought, well, I could do this. Let me just leverage my LinkedIn network and let me pitch some of these CEOs that I know and that I've worked with. And so what I did is I said, okay, I designed a uh 12-week leadership program to where I would pitch CEOs and I would say, okay, you give me 12 weeks and I'm gonna give you your leadership team is gonna be motivated from the inside out. They are gonna be in alignment with your mission, your vision, your values, your purpose, and they're gonna want to be so motivated they're gonna run through the fire for you. And who doesn't want a whole company full of people like that? So I started um doing leaders, a group leadership program where I would um coach, you know, middle managers to become senior leaders, senior leaders to prepare for the C-suite. And then I did some selective executive coaching. In the corporate, in the leadership program, the group program, I would designed it so each leader would get three one-on-ones, one in the beginning, one at the midpoint, one at the end. And so the first one, I would use a tool called the Game Changing Index, which I still use today. It's super cool. Um it was developed by uh researchers in the UK who wanted to find out where game changers are, where these out-of-the-box thinkers come from. You know, we know they're out there, but how do we find them? And what they found was there were um about five different types of people, game changers, and that allowed me to use a tool in the beginning to let me know where somebody's energy naturally wants to go. What motivates them from the inside out? So it gave me um a way to start having a conversation with people about how do you live up to your potential in your best life and where do you put your time, effort, and attention and energy into yourself, let alone your team. Then midpoint, I'd be checking in, you know, how are things going? We do a traditional coaching session, you know, where do you still see opportunities with you, with your team? And then they've gotten to know me towards the end of the course. So the last session, I said to them, I said, okay, we can continue to have, you know, this session designed as a traditional coaching session. We'll talk about where you are, where your team is, and where you want to go, and set you, put a plan in motion for you to continue. Um, or you can take a risk walk with me and we can have a Soul Intelligence session where we can get to the root cause of the issues as to why you are feeling the way you're feeling, why your team's in the position they're in already, and why things are falling apart at home. So your choice, which would you like? Every single person chose the Soul Intelligence session, and I knew I had something. I was like, okay, it's game on. So that was my first clue that this was ready, um, ready to be shared with others. And so that's how I introduced it initially. Then I was like, hmm, my functional medicine doctor, she's an MD, um medical doctor, a triple board certified MD, and she's also a naturopathic doctor. Because I started thinking, like, wow, you know, she's open to alternative healing therapies and methods, everything from red light therapy to ozone to, you know, um intervenous trips with different vitamins and things. And I was like, you know, I wonder if she'd be into this. So I sent her an email and I explained what I could do. And I said, I know you know me as this crazy, you know, plane hopping lunatic with burnt-out adrenals, but there is another side to me. And I said, I've discovered I can actually shift energy and I can actually get to the root cause of people's mental and emotional um illness that's keeping them locked in physical discomfort. And I would love to share my bioenergetic method with you, and I know you're busy all the time, but what I'll do is I'll clear my afternoon. I had to use a little sales technique. She didn't know I wasn't working at the time. But I'm like, I'll come down to your office. I'll just sit there until you have a moment. So I got to her office and she works with a number of different practitioners. And um, the chiropractor said, I just had three patients cancel in a row. That never happens. I went, thank you, God. So I sat down and I did a session with her, and she had such a moving experience. Um, she had tears coming down her face. She was like, I don't understand how you know all this stuff going on in my personal life. She like kicked her water all over the floor, which is like typically anytime there's water, it's emotion, very much like tears, it's energy, emotions flowing. And right at that moment, my doctor knocked on the door and peeked her head in, saw her colleague a hot mess, and goes, Okay, I'm next. And so then I did a session for her. I continued to do work for her colleagues and her patients. Um, and then I realized, you know, the field of functional and integrative medicine is probably the most open to understanding how the energy medicine works in conjunction with what they're doing. And uh she actually wound up writing the foreword to my book for me as well, which was amazing.
Exploring Soul Intelligence
Speaker 1Can you walk me through a typical session?
Speaker 2Sure. Well, it's a first of all, it's a neuroenergetic process. Um and so the cool thing is you don't have to do anything. You show up to a Zoom, and people are always like, what? That's it? I'm like, yeah. So doctors love it because that's 100% compliance. As long as they show up, we're doing it. You know, that's pretty much it. You just have to show up and be open and willing to receive. And what I do is I set up what I call a sacred space, because you know, um, everybody and everything is energy, right? We're if we just roll the clock back and we think back to elementary school, we learned we were protons, neutrons, electrons vibrating in this electromagnetic field. So that means energy can get trapped in people, places, and things, just like you can get trapped in your energetic body, your physical body, your mental body, your emotional body. Um, just because we don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. The same way I'm seeing you right now, right? Um, it's an energy transfer. It's a frequency that's being received by the computer or received by our phone. We stream stuff all the time and don't even think about it, right? Um, music that comes in as an energy, a frequency, and then our ear receives it and translates the information. So it's the same thing that's going on, but I think people forget that because we're physical, we're corporal, and we we feel separate. Um, but the issue with energy is I can do it remotely, I can do it next to somebody. Energy transfers regardless. So what I do is I set up a sacred space because, you know, there is a scientific law that once energy is created, it can't be destroyed. It's got to be transmuted into something else, right? We got to move it. Just like anger can transmute into passion, right? You can you can move it from a negative to a positive. So it's the same thing. And that's essentially what I'm doing. And most of what holds us back from achieving the things we want to achieve in our life are the unseen things. It's the self-learning beliefs, it's the negative energies, emotions, and thoughts, it's repetitive patterns or archetypes that we fall into. Um it's uh all of the trauma that our body holds, the cells still hold. So even though may we may have gone to counseling um and we've talked it out, we think we've done all the work we need to do, something triggers or we find it stuck in the body, in the physical body, in an organ, in a system, um pooling where it doesn't belong. And so, since most of what happens, all emotions, beliefs are all stored in our subconscious mind. Now, our subconscious minds run in the show 95% of the time. That means all that figuring, strategizing, calculating, thinking is only 5% of the activity. That's crazy.
Speaker 1That's an insane number. That's crazy.
Speaker 2I know. And when we think about, you know, I'm glad we have a subconscious mind or we wouldn't breathe while we're sleeping, right? But at the same time, it runs an awful lot and it runs our nervous system. And so what we need to do is most of us don't know what's stuck in the subconscious, right? It's below our consciousness. We're not aware of it. So what my method does is allow me to get into the subconscious level to bring whatever needs to shift up to the conscious level where you can acknowledge it and we shift it and we release it. And so that's essentially how the session works. I use the charts to discern the information, so I know specifically what needs to shift, and we just shift it and we send it back to the divine for transmutation into love and light. Um, I'm pretty agnostic when it comes to if you're comfortable with the word divine or God or source or nature or whatever works for the individual. To me, it's the same. It's this divine loving presence. Um, and um, we shift it back um to the divine so that it doesn't go on to another person, plant, animal, etc.
Speaker 1And how many sessions does this usually entail?
Speaker 2Well, it depends on what somebody's going through. You know, if someone's having a serious health issue, you know, I've worked with someone, you know, people who have shingles and, you know, have been out of work and it's it took several months because there were a lot of things layered on that. Um, to where uh I also work with um, you know, I'm working with someone who's looking to get pregnant. And so we're releasing a lot of things that were held in, you know, the uterus and the shakal chakra, and that might only take, you know, three sessions. Sometimes, for example, I worked with a health coach. This was so funny, and she says to me, she goes, Okay, I haven't had my period in three months. Um, I don't want my husband to touch me. I don't feel good, I don't feel attractive. Um, and you know, my business is starting to dry up. I said, Oh, well, we need to clear your sacral chakra. She's like, What? What are you talking about? I said, Well, the sacral, right? The the uterus, that's where we birth babies and we birth businesses. And I said, So it's all the same energy that's stuck. And so sure enough, I checked um and I saw that she was like 90% blocked. I'm like, man, there's not a whole lot going on down there. And I go, okay, so let me shift it up and out. Um, we worked on all of that and took a session. Literally the next morning, I got a text from her and she said, Girl, you literally got everything flowing. She goes, I got my period. I let my husband hold me, and I had three emails waiting for me with new client interest. And I was like, score. So the answer is it depends on somebody, you know, and what they're going through. But it's kind of like a chiropractor. You know, you go to a chiropractor for a biomechanical adjustment. And when you're having an issue, you might go more frequently. But if it's just kind of regular maintenance, you might go once a month, you know, to get an adjustment. So that's a biomechanical adjustment. People come to me for a bioenergetic adjustment, you know. So it just really depends, and it depends what's going on. And, you know, it, you know, a lot of times I'm partnering with doctors on the mental and emotional side of dis-ease while they're giving the body what it needs to heal physically. But sometimes the body needs a little extra help. It can't actually um absorb whether it's a nutraceutical or a medication or, you know, whatever therapy they're asking them to do because mentally you're not in the right place. Like you're completely depressed and your life has changed and you can't pull yourself out of it. So you're not in a place to heal and to receive the healing and to be able to actually be positive about getting better. So again, it really depends on each individual and what's going on in their life. But it can be as quick as an overnight. Um, I actually had a doctor, this is kind of funny. I had a doctor call me and say, I haven't been able to walk on my foot for five months. I'm like, You're a doctor. What do you mean you can't walk on your foot for five months? And she goes, Why do you think I'm calling you? I go, Okay, all right. So obviously you've tried everything. And this happens to me a lot. You know, I'm sometimes the last one on the magical mystery door feeling because I've tried everything else. And so fortunately, they come to me and they have some relief. So that's exciting. So anyway, she calls me and she's like, that's why I want to do a session. So I open up, I look in the charts, and I ask her, and I go, What is with all these men not supporting you? Geez, this is intense. And there was just a lot of like narcissistic and ego-centric energy and just toxic masculinity. And she goes, Oh, I have um an issue on my house. We had contractors, they didn't do the work properly. I'm in a lawsuit, and I can't even get my attorney to call me back. I go, oh, so you can't move forward. Makes sense why you can't put any weight on your foot. Um, okay, and so I clear this, I get that going. She also had um a bit of a sign of sinus infection that was going on. We shifted the energy there. A sinus infection is typically when you're irritated with someone that you're really close to. Um, and so um she said she couldn't even get her own attorney to call her back and go, Well, there's your sinus infection for you. So we shifted that stuff. The next day, she was like, You're a miracle worker. She goes, I was literally crawling from the office to the bathroom because I couldn't put any weight on my foot and I'm sick of crutches. She said, I was able to walk. She goes, I can't believe it. I barely have a cold in my nose. And she goes, one session. I go, one session. And I said, Good. Now that you could put weight on your foot, I want you to put that foot up the backside of your attorney and call him as soon as you hang up with me. Which she did. So um, it can work that quickly. It just truly depends on what's going on for somebody. And when, you know, are you ready to let it go? Are you ready to release it? Are you open and allowing it to come up and out?
There Is No Comparison
Speaker 1Compare your level of happiness now to when you're in the corporate world.
Speaker 2Oh gosh, no comparison. No comparison. Um, my level of happiness now, I I really love the work I get to do in the world. Um, I get to help heal people on every level, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, energetically. And when someone has a shift or a breakthrough, that makes my day like nothing else. Like knowing that they are, you know, on their healing path, that they're achieving what they want to achieve, that their relationships are better, um, that they're in a great spot. I mean, that always probably was the underlying thread for me. Like, I loved when people met or exceeded their own expectations. That like lit me up like nothing else. So to be in a position to really help people do that, um, not only through the Soul Intelligence method, but you know, through working um, you know, with a nutraceutical company to also give them the physical nutrients they need to heal the body when we get the energy up and out. I mean, partnering with, you know, medical doctors, naturopathic doctors, uh, pharmacists, uh, psychologists, it's just amazing to me. Um, it just makes you feel so good when you are helping to make a difference in the world, truly.
Speaker 1Do you feel that all your trials and tribulations that you experienced, starting from a young age, do you feel that that prepared you for what's going on in your life today, for your life's mission? Unfortunately, yes.
Speaker 2You know, when you take a lens and you look back, um, it's really funny. I was at um a pink moon. Um there was a big full moon last night that was amazing, the first full moon of um the year. And I was at a festival, and um it was funny, they said, all the things, you know, just be grateful for your past because all of the things brought you here to this festival, you know, tonight, um, to where you get to, you know, be with all these people in a great loving energy. And I laughed, wow, what a crooked path that was just to get here, you know, just kind of um, you know, with some joy and levity to it. But truly, I I really do believe all of that, right? I do believe that we choose, um, as difficult as it sounds, that we choose our life circumstances to come here to learn the lessons that we are, you know, that we signed up to learn so that we continue to move on our ascension path. And I really do believe that our mission is to help others in the world. And um I think, you know, your podcast in particular is one of those that help people um hear others' stories to be hopefully motivated, inspired, and like, okay, I can do it too. I can get through this. Um, and so when you get to do that loving work in the world, I really believe that's um, you know, how how we make the world a better place.
Speaker 1Describe who Kristine is today in one sentence.
Speaker 2Oh, Kristine is um a spiritual gangster who loves um helping um to heal healers and help make the world a better place, healing it physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, energetically. I know pretty long compound sentence.
Speaker 1That works. Where can I buy your book?
Speaker 2I'm very fortunate to have my book available on Amazon in all formats and Kindle. I actually went out to LA and recorded the audible version too, in case you're more of a listener. I've had several people remark that they feel like they've gotten a healing by just listening to the book because it's me speaking. Um and it's also available on Barnes and Noble and my website. It's Soul Intelligencemethod.com.
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